Tuesday, November 13, 2007

An annoying philosphy question that's not really philosophy

VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE:
I forgot to include their biggest argument, which is that it's two against one (one person wants to sleep, while the two of them want to play magic, and they think it's unfair that they're getting kicked out for one person.)



Okay, if anyone who's reading this just read my sister's blog (older), please don't read this until a little later because it will look really shallow and pointless.

As none of you know, I am living in a five person room right now. It is extremley difficult for five people to agree to do the same thing at the same time. Like sleep for example. But there is a specific problem my room is facing right now on Shabbos afternoons that I was hoping someone out there would help me fix.

Usually, for me, after eating cholent, I am unable to do pretty much anything besides flop on a bed or couch and sleep till, or possibly through mincha. One of my roommates appears to have this very same issue. But two of my other roommates don't seem to get this problem- and are huge magic addicts.
For those of you who don't know, Magic is a trading card game that lasts for HOURS. No joke. These guys go at it all afternoon. ALL afternoon. 5 hours 6 hours 7 hours, doesn't matter. And it's not the quietest game either. Many times have I woken up to the sweet sound of-
OOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!! SNAP!!!!!!!! (translation- I win)
I however, who lacks the spine and guts to tell them to be quiet (I don't feel it's necessary, I'm lazy, my list of rationalizations go on) just meekly try to get back to sleep, which never works. My other sleeping roommate however, tells them to be quiet, or play somewhere else.
They take extreme offense immediatly. "Your kicking us out of our OWN room so you can SLEEP! Who's being selfish here?" This particular person has quite a bit of energy because he slept through all of Shabbos davening. In his room. In his bed.
My sleeping roommate eventually leaves and sleeps somewhere else. I argue that it's much easier to find somewhere else to play magic than it is to find someplace to sleep, but they really never agree with anything I say, being stubborn and bringing in more crude, flawed logic to their side.

Any suggestions?

6 comments:

PsychoToddler said...

They should go play somewhere else.

If you really want them to leave, you could eat the chulent and then allow it to perform some "magic" of its own. That'll usually clear out a room pretty quick.

fudge said...

why would you think that's shallow? roommates have been the chief source of agony in my life for nigh on two years.

as for the solution - you actually have the solution, which is that a) you can play magic anywhere b) you can't sleep anywhere c) other roommate also wants to sleep and d) it is a widely accepted practice that many people sleep on shabbos afternoon, therefore solution should be E) you sleep, they play either quietly or elsewhere.

HOWEVER, if your roommates are refusing to acknowledge your superior logic or are just being immature, you may want to consider talking it over with whoever's in charge of dorming or standing up for yourself rather than rolling over. sound firm about it and they may give you more respect. you are, after all, actually right.

Foust said...

talk in a loud, deep, god-like voice:

"Get out of My room or face My wrath!!!!"

You may also try reminding them of the halachos of gezel sheinah, but knowing who you're talking about, i doubt that will work

Rafiki said...

after considering both of these responses, I think I'll have to go with the first one. Sorry Foust.

MordyT said...

I agree w/ foust (for once).
Tell them to leave or die.

outofAMMO said...

They wont even let me into your room.